Death Note The Musical - Subtitles.

[sinnesspiel]

Death Note: The Musical

It's about as gay as you'd expect Death Note crossed with musical theater to be.

Urai Kenji Version (Brown Hair)

2015

Current subtitle version: Non-Otaku Version 2.0 - download | Otaku Version 2.0 - download
Hard-subbed: Non-Otaku Version 2.0 - download (693MB) | Otaku Version 2.0 - download (2G)
Raw video:　Encode + Upload : myheart1027 (2.9GB)  | Mediafire (2.9GB)
Alternate Raw Download: (Encode + Upload by kylara: | Mega (3.43GB) -- Subs will not match the timing for this, more of an FYI. 

2017

Current subtitle version: Non-Otaku Version 1.0 - download | Otaku Version 1.0 - download
Hard-subbed: Non-Otaku Version 1.0 - download (2GB) | Otaku Version 1.0 - download (2GB)
Raw video: Encode + Upload by dmitryakmon  | Mega (4.5GB)
Interviews only: (Hard-Subbed) - download
(Interviews are also in  dmitryakmon 's raw, the soft-subs, and the hardsubs.)

 

Kakizawa Hayato Version (Black Hair)

2015

Current subtitle version: Non-Otaku Version 2.0 - download | Otaku Version 2.0 - download
Hard-subbed: Non-Otaku Version 2.0 - download (1.32GB) | Otaku Version 2.0 - download (1.32GB)
Raw video: Encode + Upload by kylara| to Mega (3.48GB) | Mediafire (3.48G)

2017

Current subtitle version: Non-Otaku Version 1.0 - download | Otaku Version 1.0 - download
Hard-subbed: Non-Otaku Version 1.0 - download (760MB) | Otaku Version 1.0 - download (760MB)
Raw video: Encode by dmitryakmon |  Mediafire (1.59G)  
Interviews only: (Hard-Subbed) - download 
(Interviews are also in dmitryakmon 's raw, the soft-subs, and the hardsubs.)



Foreign Language Versions:
'Tiếng Việt' (Vietnamese):
Phiên bản Urai và Kakizawa 2015 có tại Koike Teppei Vietnam!

České (Czech)
Stáhněte si verzi Urai 2015 na Death Note: The Musical – české titulky







Current subtitle version: 2015 - 2.0 ||| 2017 - 1.0

Update log:

Verison 1.0 - 2017  02/20/2021 - Thank tfallen for reaching out so nicely to ask/remind me I never upped Kakizawa's 2017 version and the interviews. Anyone into Shiki novel translations probably owes him some gratitude too; his message reminded me I should probably get back on the free translation train again. Amazing what buttering a guy up can get you, even if it's a few months later.

Despite swapping 2017 Urai's delivery of Where is Justice to be more like Kakizawa's 2015 subs, I ended up swapping Kakizawa's subs to be more like Urai's this time. I do feel a little more fortified in my decision since Kakizawa specifically mentions Light being less contentious in the song than he instinctively wants to make him (and presumably had been making him in the past based on what we see). 

Ryuk adlibbed in a girly role-language again, though slightly different from during Urai's; same disclaimer, calling himself a girl in third person is still just a language play.

Light talks to Ryuk more like a pet or a puppy than a girlfriend this time in the same scene, subbed accordingly. Doesn't actually call Ryuk a puppy but wanted to be sure the babytalk nuance carried for translating "dechu" for desu. 

Version 1.0 - 2017 - 12/10/17 The script is mostly the same as the 2015 one; I largely re-translated it and then went with the old translation unless I thought the new one was a meaningful improvement (in which case I tweaked the '15 scripts). There's about 15 minutes of new/extended scenes added, all of them in the first half.

Urai's first song (Where is Justice?) comes off very differently in the '17 variant, to the point I'm sincerely considering switching all the lines to the Kakizawa translation. The rest of his performance fits in with the old translation properly.

New translation notes for the '17 version are in blue below, kept in relatively chronological order.

Ryuk and Souichirou have new actors, so a lot of their lines were tweaked based on the different direction they took the characters; same issue I had with the Urai vs. Kakizawa scripts. The actual Japanese dialogue is still the exact same aside from some of Ryuk's. If anyone has any interest in what differences I subjectively took when doing the scripts, I'l be happy to post about it like I did the two Light, but I think most people would prefer I just shut up and give them their videos, ha ha.... ha....

Version 2.0 - 12/10/17 - Fixed a wrong colored karaoke line. While doing the 2017 version I largely re-translated and went with the old translation unless I felt my new translation was better overall, or better fit the new version. I think only 2 or 3 lines in the 2015 one got tweaked. All song lines.

Why is the hardest part of this musical for me the English portions? I better heard Ready for Love's Engrish part: it's not "It's all ready," but "If you're ready." Oddly, I could tell this line's correction based on one of Misa's back-up singers having more clear pronunciation in the '17 version. I heard the distinction when checking if the number of readys changed or if I was just hearing it differently--in the end, I kept two readys in the '15 version and kept it as one in the '17 because that's legitimately how it sounds to me in each. Note in talking to some Japanese fans some said that that in some performances, Misa (and Ryuk in his singing afterwards) says "I'm Lady, yes, a Lady" instead of ready.

Changed the line in Misa's Secret Message song from "our gods" to "the gods" since I decided if I was going to translate it more like a pop song with a hidden message song than a hidden message song that might pass for a pop-song (both Light *and* L seemed to miss the cues in the song--nobody ever references it) that I'd go with what sounds better in English. "Futari no Kami-sama" can mean our two gods or the two gods, so I went with that one.

Version 1.3 - 4/12/16 - Fixed a line of Light's in the song Death Note; misheard shinpo as shinpou. Thanks to CaO-M3 at Youtube for the catch! Having some problems with uploads, but hardsubs should be up any day now for all four versions of 1.3. Stuck with the MyHeart version of Urai's as it was reported to show less pixelation on faces.
Version 1.2 Kylara Version - 12/30/15 - Kylara's re-encoded both musicals for better quality and cut out more of the ads. Adjusted sub timing/resolution to the better video. Probably, any updates will be done to these videos, but I'm hoping I've caught everything this time around. Karaoke typo fix, one or two line tweaks. Will update links above when files are finished uploading.
Version 1.2 - 12/2/2015 - Harry Bell to Haley Belle, manga character reference. Finally got credits for the Kakizawa raw encodes. Created Kylara version for a likely better quality hardsub of the Kakizawa version. Adjusted a few Kakizawa Light lines again.
Version 1.1 - 11/15/2015 - Karaoke errors, things found when adjusting for the Kakizawa scripts, redid the last song Requiem since I still wasn't happy with it. Changed fanboy to otaku in Otaku sub versions. Fussed a lot over tonal differences. Made the Urai vs. Kakizawa script difference log.
Version: 1.0 - 10/31/2015
Mostly karaoke fixes. A viewer's already found two errors I missed so you'll be getting at least one more update. But I'll probably hold off until I'm editing the scripts for the Kakizawa version since that airs next week or so. By all means share any mistakes you see in the mean time.
Version: 0.2 - 10/28/2015
Changed Misa's Engrish rap portion, fixed some typos in the translation and karaoke, tried to consistently keep sentences following ellipses (...) lowercase unless it's a new thought or sentence, made some fast flowing lines stay onscreen longer, improved/added on-screen text translations.
Version: 0.1 - 10/22/2015
I just finished this last night and it's only gone through a few beta checks. I've been staring at it for about four days straight and would like some other eyes on it. So to everyone here with us at the very first beta launch to offer corrections: thank you.

Sharing:
Re-encode the hardsubs all you want and to share that .ass freely. Keep the credits if you would kindly, including for the original raw, unless you get your own raw and shift the timing to it. If you Youtube the songs a link back here would be cool in case there are any major updates or corrections.

All about .ass:
This subtitle set is in .ass format. While a lot of times you can just convert an .ass to an .srt or .sub file and basically get by fine, doing that with this file will be an absolute mess as I've included karaoke on all the songs and there's quite a few delayed/alpha subs which most other formats can't process. Without the spacing and font colors processed through the .ass file, the songs will take up half your screen in a jumbled mess and it's going to be chaotic.

VLC and Media Player Classic can both load .ass files. VirtualDub and most other encoding programs are also able to hard-sub them to a video.

Want to Translate This Into Languages Other Than English?
Awesome! Feel free to ask me any questions about the original Japanese if it'll help--some things might translate better into your language from Japanese than they did into English! For example, French/German/Spanish translators would get to convey more linguistic information than English with a character using tu/vous du/Sie, tu/usted at another character.

I hope that you'll maintain these subs' translation policies and standards, including providing some notes somewhere, but I have no way of stopping you if you don't, and very little way of knowing the quality of the translation if I don't speak the language.

When you're finished, if you write "You can download subtitles/the musical in (language) here" in the language you're translating it to, I'll also like to put a link to your site or your download link here to help people find it.

Want to Adjust this English Translation?
Unless it's a parody I probably don't personally approve of it, but I don't know that I have the right to stop you, and I do know I don't have the means. If you care, see my thoughts here.

Translator's Notes:

Script Difference Log (Urai vs. Hayato)

You might notice that despite only about one page worth of differences in what's said in Japanese there are quite a few differences in the two scripts in terms of Light's lines. For the discussion such, see the tone difference discussion. At this time the informal consensus is that subs geared to each actor's interpretation are the best and are not unnecessarily invasive, and that a "neutral" set of subs that I'd make if only working with the text script are not necessary. Chime in if you like!

Wording Choice

Since this is a musical, the prose can get rather purple. I mean this in terms of the original Japanese wording/grammar itself as well as the translation. If I were translating regular dialogue, there are things I'd certainly keep more plain and I wouldn't trend towards the poetic over the literal, even if at times the "feel" were off. I'd trust the work itself to carry the feel even with an at times necessarily clunky translation. At times in songs however, I do use the liberty granted to me by how shamelessly purple a musical it is to help better carry meaning. I try to phrase it so that viewers can get a feel for how characters are emoting certain lines or words. Though if it ever comes down to being outright inaccurate, I go with accuracy and assume the actors are capable of getting the emotion across even with the language barrier.

One example is Light's "boredom." In the opening number, Where is Justice? he mentions being overtaken by boredom. The word used is "taikutsu" which is a key word in Death Note. Every fan knows the key scene where Light declares that he took up the role of Kira because he was "bored." It's in answer to Ryuk saying he was bored. The word used, taikutsu, is a specific kind of boredom; it's not the same boredom as having nothing else to do (hima), it's more of a Sisyphean boredom, of being tired of what one is doing, usually for a lack of effect or change in anything, being 'bored' with the state of things. Of course in English the word ennui is quite fluffy and it'd feel wrong for a character like Ryuk to say it. If Light were translated as saying it, it'd not only lose the sense of match with Ryuk's word, it'd lose the flippancy it carries as a more common Japanese word.

Taking advantage of the purple nature of the musical, I translated Light's line about being overwhelmed by 'taikutsu' as "Overtaken by this boredom and ennui." The original line doesn't list two things; it's only taikutsu. But I don't have to worry about the line running a little long, it fits the tone, and the meaning is carried over better.

However, you'll notice for the lead in to the song Kira, in answer to Light's question of why he dropped the Death Note, Ryuk says "Taikutsu datta kara sa." This line was translated as "'Cause I was fed up." because it captures the type of boredom and the feel of his other word/grammatical choices. In the song itself, he uses taikutsu again. While I could have kept it consistent and went with "You get fed up to death with it" or something, since the context has been laid out by the prior translation and the song itself, the line "shinu hodo taikutsu" - You could die [because] it's so boring. - was kept literal.

Other examples include:

Literal translation: (Death Note) Either: We/They (human beings) haven't made any progress past the state of writing chain letters, OR This prank isn't any more creative or advanced than a chain letter.
Translation(s):
Urai: It's no better than a chain letter, we haven't progressed in the slightest.
Kakizwa: It's as bad as a chain letter, we haven't made any progress at all.
(See the tone discussion page for discussion on characterization/tonal choice differences between Lights.)

There's a similar line in the anime manga in which Light says "Fukou no tegami kara zenzen shinpo shichainai." The musical line is "Fukou no tegami kara nani mo shinpo ga nai." The only difference is the musical line comes with less dialogue-like grammar; it's cleaned up to be a good lyric. Just as the musical line, Light could be saying the prank isn't very advanced or he could be talking about humanity which is still doing pranks, or both. I went with both so as not to lock one possibility out, and I'd say either would be an in-character comment for him. But again, it's good for the audience to know they can write off either one if only one fits your view of the character/song.

Literal Translation: Light, to Ryuk: Can't you understand?
Translation: Try and understand, Dear? (Urai - 2017) ;Twy an understand, pwuppy? (Kakizawa - 2017)
Reason: Urai - Light's very obviously playing on a husband/wife gag dynamic from countless old sitcoms where the girl vies for the working male partner's attention and he's busy, then she pouts that he's always busy. I've heard others who'd seen the musical say it seemed flirty, and I agree and think it always has this dynamic. It only comes off as so obvious as to justify putting it into the text in the '17 video, at least for me.

In Kakizawa's, Light uses baby talk more geared towards pets, complete with a chin scratch. Desu is slurred to dechu. There's no reference to the specific type of pet but I wanted to make it clear there was baby talk slurring, and it's a short line that's hard to convey that in with the given words.

Literal Translation: (2017 only) Ryuk, when leaving to go to the kitchen: I'm apple. Are you apple? Where might apples be?
Translation: I'm Apple. Are you Apple? Where might a girl find herself an apple?
Reasons: Ryuk switches to an extremely feminine speech style, using "doko kashira?" since he's mimicking a girly popsong. This is a speech style used by fairly effeminate women or gay guys speaking anego, taking on intentionally feminine speech habits. (Or in this case, when Ryuk's playing around as a joke, complete with a throw back to Sayu's Ka-powie! line.) I thought translating it straight would lose this which is the crux of the joke, and I didn't feel it was out of the spirit of things at all. But I know fandom gets its knickers in a twist or runs wild with stuff so here's a note to explain it in case it goes anywhere. Ryuk does not literally refer to himself as or code as female, he apes a speech style once as a joke.


Literal translation: (Secret Message) We'll dye everything in the color you like.
Translation: We'll dye the whole wide world in the colors you want to see.
Reason: Sounds a lot better and I don't think it changes the meaning at all. But in general I prefer not to force my own interpretation no matter how glaringly obvious I think it is that she's talking about what they'll do as a Kira team.

Also in Misa's Secret Message, she sings the line "Watashi kowakunai." I translated it in the subtitles as "I won't be afraid (to run away with you)." However, it can also be translated as "I'm not someone to fear." I ultimately went with "I won't be afraid" because that'd be how the general pop-song listening public who aren't looking for a message to Kira would hear it, and because the rest of the song goes on to emphasize just as clearly that she's not a threat to Kira. I thought about translating it in a way that could hold both meetings, "there's nothing to fear," but there's already another line in the same stanza and chorus saying just that.


Literal translation: (Cruel Dream) This is the real thing.
Translation: This is no illusion.
Reason: The line is a throwback to an earlier sung line, "That is an illusion." I don't think it changes the meaning at all, and it better preserves the flow and feel of the song. That leads us to the biggest stretch in the whole translation...


On the last song, Requiem, which is particularly poetic, I took quite a few more liberties than I would normally ever be comfortable with. It leaves a lot to be implied, and while I hate staking things down to only one interpretation, the alternative, a straight and accurate translation that doesn't nail down the symbolism, borders on incomprehensible and as a result fails to carry the poetry. At least I think so.

I still don't think the subtitled translation is the best translation as the best translation is the most accurate, but I think the song is almost entirely about the feeling and the symbolism. For the sake of consistency with how I've otherwise translated, we ended up with the subtitled one and a note to come check this page for those who care about accuracy.

You decide if I went too far!

Subtitle Translation	Best Translation
Oh ye who lie here in sleep.	Oh ye who lie here in sleep.
Into this great earth shall ye melt away.	Into this great earth shall ye melt away.
Ah, the mighty, the craven,	Ah, the mighty, the craven,
all drift away in the flow of time.	flow and vanish away.
Ah, a wind of remembrance whispers,	Ah, a wind of remembrance blows,
of that moment.	that moment.
Yes, it is the song of the wind on the trees.	Yes, the many trees sing
Merely passing, the season of which they sing.	of the season just passing.
Leaves, a transient blaze that fall and scatter; that is their story.	of a fleetingly burning, scattering story.
Yes, it is the song of the wind on the trees.	Yes, the many trees sing
Merely passing, the season of which they sing.	of the season just passing.
Leaves, a transient blaze that fall and scatter; that is their story.	of a fleetingly burning, scattering story.
That is their story.	They sing a story.

This song got a few revisions that people who got earlier scripts or who read the notes on this song earlier might have noticed. In summary "just" can mean the season's (seasons'?) only activity is to pass or it can mean it just passed or it could be that in singing the trees pass said season on or any number of poetic interpretations. I think I finally settled on an English one vague enough to keep all of those.


That said, because cases like this do exist, along with this translation note page, I have included the karaoke on all of the songs so you're free to check the translation a bit that way. Though the main reason it's on there is I suspect people into musicals will have a special interest in the songs.

This brings us to Misa's rap. For most things I've been quite confident I heard it right, with one glaring exception: the rap portion of Prepared for Love. Ultimately the subtitle came out to: "It's all ready, come here now! 'Cause I'm ready, ready! Set! Go, go!"

I'd also thought the last part was perhaps "Zekkoucho" ("and in top form") instead of "... ready. Set! Go, go." I ultimately went with the all English guess, but be aware, it's made with a low confidence level. Casuistor over at Tumblr says the Korean version seems to be in line with my Engrish guess. Fuck that song.

Otaku vs. Non-Otaku versions

All -san and -kuns are intact in all versions.

In the Non-Otaku version Shinigami is translated out as god of death, Onii-chan is translated out as Big brother, and Otaku is translated out as fanboy. That's the only difference in the scripts. Thought about calling the otaku version the Weeaboo translation for the concept of using Japanese when a perfectly good English equivalent exists, but decided a true to form Weeaboo would likewise use the Japanese term Otaku instead of the English Weeaboo too.

Your translator strongly prefers Otaku style translations on everything, though the references to gods and God probably works better in English when Shinigami's also translated out as god of death. But those familiar with the term Shinigami probably make those connections without needing them spelled out so blatantly.

Comments

[justicewillprevail]

You're amazing, thank you so much for this! Snagging the Otaku subs.

[sinnesspiel]

Superior version GET!

Thanks for viewing!

[justicewillprevail]

Re: the Kakizawa version - "I don't know if it's the same timing/ratio as the 3.7 version"

They're from the same source, as the timing is identical. But the 3.7 GB version is awkwardly cropped for some reason, so it has a different aspect ratio: 1920 x 1176 (compared to the 25 GB version's 1920 x 1080). Both versions are interlaced.

Out of curiosity, what program do you use to hard-sub the .ass file to the video? And is there an easy way to adjust the subtitles' timing? I plan on decombing the 25 GB version (because I want the version I keep forever to be pretty) and trimming the ends (no more TV fluff stuff) to create a neater and smaller raw, but then it won't match the awesome subs you end up releasing.

Thanks again for everything you're doing!

[sinnesspiel]

Disregard half of the original reply, I thought this was the conversation thread about a different aspect ratio on Urai subs.

The Kakizawa version's not finished yet since I don't know who to credit for encoding the raw and I'm fussing over minute differences (which you join in the discussion of over here if you like pedantic useless details). Should be done by next week, even if I end up with two versions. There's not just retiming, there's added/dropped lines too, so I wouldn't recommend just retiming the Urai ones in one bulk move (and even then some need to be pushed forward, some back, some put on longer--in general Kakizawa takes his time more often with lines).

I use Virtualdub to hardsub. The Kakizawa version (4GB) I have to take from an MP4 to an AVI and then re-encode it yet again with subs since VD wouldn't work with the MP4 and the MP4-AVI program doesn't do subs, so the Kakizawa version hardsub I make will probably not be up to the highest video quality standards.

Just retime the translator's notes and credits into the musical credits/in the intermission or something since I put them in the TV lead-ins originally.

[justicewillprevail]

Thanks for all the info! I know enough about video conversions to get by, but not a whole lot about working with subtitles -- especially .ass files, which seem extra tricky. And yeah, I wouldn't want to just re-time the Urai subs to Kakizawa's version. Your awesome subs are worth waiting for.

I was reading that post the other day and thinking about it. I translate (although definitely not at your level, I stick to doujinshi), so I understand the dilemma. I might jump in with some thoughts later. (Also, totally amused that I'm not the only RP journal hanging around here.)

By credit for the encode, you mean who to credit for creating the 4 GB version? I could re-encode AsiaFull's 25 GB version if you're concerned about crediting. (Which would also be a normal uncropped aspect ratio, unlike the current 4 GB version.) Just let me know what specs you want (ratio, file size, and I could decomb or even trim the beginning/ending). Unless you have another program in mind (VirtualDub?), I generally use Handbrake so it'd be .mkv or .mp4. Just let me know -- your work is awesome, and I'm happy to help out any way I can.

[sinnesspiel]

I wouldn't sell yourself short on the translation front. Doujinshi are one of the hardest things to translate. You've got to fit it in the bubble, get the speech style right, they're more prone than any other writer to put obscure and perhaps even entirely personal in-jokes, and half the time you're not decoding kanji, it's outright cacography.

I'm not too picky about ratio or video quality; I'm a failure as an Otaku. I suspect a lot of other people are though. I've been working with the 4GB one since it's what I have, but the only things that would take more than a few clicks to adjust would be the on-screen text translations and one or two delayed lines I didn't do as Alphasubs for whatever stupid reason. As for credits, I hate to hardsub it and not credit the video at all. If you do want to hardsub it, lemme know who to credit or throw in your own credit line. My only problem with not doing it myself is not knowing when I may update them. Urai's version will end up getting a 1.10 since I found some karaoke errors and some amusing little blips. While I appreciate the flattery on the translation quality, sadly I'm all too fallible.



I think most DWers are RPers. RPers tend to care about character voice for obvious reasons. I suspect the only people who would comment on something like that with anything other than "touch grass" would be roleplayers (and most RPers would probably tell me that too). Just about everyone I know who I talk DN with I know through RP.

[justicewillprevail]

Aw, thanks. The obscure in-jokes are the worst, which is why I avoid gag doujinshi. Trying to figure out equivalent punchlines in English vs. a bulky translator's note explaining the joke -- ugh! I'll take deciphering sloppy kanji any day over that.

For some reason, ratio and video quality mean a lot to me. So I guess winning is losing? ^^; I'll be happy to play with hardsubbing myself, but I was thinking more about getting you a better raw you could work with on your own, so you can make changes as you need. For instance, I've playing around with the idea of making a version that cuts off the first 1m10s and ends at 2h34m44s (on the Kakizawa version), to remove the excess TV stuff. And I've made some good conversation samples to .avi and .mkv, just not a full length one. This is working off AsiaFull's 25 GB version and the raw would probably be 3-5 GB, so any new re-encoding would still be great quality for hardsubbing. Would you be interested in a 1280 x 720 version (to match your last release), with the TV ad stuff trimmed off, to work with as a new raw? Would you prefer to keep the extra TV stuff kept on so it doesn't throw the sub timing off? If you're interested, let me know what would work best.

Haha, that's probably true. I haven't been roleplaying (or doing much fandom stuff at all, like replying to discussion threads like this one) since I've been hitting Nanowrimo this month. Going outside never hurts, and sometimes in my translations I do resolve indecision by just going "ah fuck it". I have thoughts, I just haven't gotten around to them yet.

[sinnesspiel]

Most otaku are quality-hounds, it makes sense. Akiba being both Otaku Mecca and also Techno Mecca is probably not a coincidence; we need our waifus in hi-def and we want to hear our seiyuu's tongues along the back of their own teeth in our audio. I'm just still too much in that crotchety "Back in MY day we weren't so damn picky!" mindset where I got my anime via over-copied low quality VHS raws and liked it, dagnabbit.

I retimed both sub sets to have the credits in the last commercial before the opening (which is the Death Note one in both videos) so if you want to just cut off the beginning/ending commercials when processing the video, you shouldn't have to retime the subs now. Both sub-sets are set to start on the frame the Death Note preview commercial starts at, if you need to do any retiming.

NanoWriMo, the black hole of RPers. Hope you produce something good! I don't do productive things so I just RP constantly. I play from a character from the second half however, and most spin-offs ignore the second half. (Rightfully so; I play from it, but it's quite a step down from the first half and when people tell me they stopped after L's death I can't really say I blame them.) That means almost nothing I translate of Death Note relates to character voices I think too deeply on.

[justicewillprevail]

"I don't do productive things" says the person who subtitled two versions of a 2.5 hour musical. Pfft, you are amazingly productive.

Nanowrimo is completed, and other than that black hole I fell into for a month, I was victorious. So I spent the last week unwinding by playing with hardsubbing .mkv videos, and ohboy do I have a new appreciation for those who do this regularly. That said, I'm totally ready to make .mkv versions when you're happy with the subtitles. And I can still upload new raws if you're interested in that? I'm using another program, so converting to an .avi is easy, and then the version lengths will match.

Just FYI, I'll adjust the subtitles to be timed perfectly with Otoharada's name coming up -- at 0:13:05.65 on the current Kakizawa version, and at 0:12:27.42 on the current Urai version. I figure I need a specific point to calculate the adjustment, and that seems good since it's an obvious frame change. Trying to time the subs to the start of the commercial didn't work well in my test run, and timing it like this was more reliable.

I remember my first internet-downloaded super low quality subbed anime. It took forever to get them all over dialup. And I was grateful then! Never look back. ... Which is why I grabbed the 23 GB Urai version of the Urai performance this weekend. In your face, dialup. Yeah, I'm dedicated to having nice .mkv versions of this for posterity. It's too wonderful.

Who do you RP play from the second half? If it's any of the Wammy's kids, throw them my way. My Nanowrimo fanfic was a big excuse to make L interact with the Wammy's kids.

And thanks again for everything! Your work on this is awesome.

[sinnesspiel]

The second script was largely just re-timing things and rewording only Light's lines. As you can see on the script differences page, there wasn't much.

So you managed to meet your writing goal? Got a link?

I'm going to up one more version of the subs since I ended up flipping through the manga for something and found out there's a Halley Belle or something like that in the FBI who gets his name writ before Raye, which is surely who Harry Bell is supposed to be. If they're going to go through the trouble of throwing bones to the fans, I don't want to be the one who swipes them away. I was already happy they changed it from Raye because Naomi being so careless wouldn't be in character. It's the little things.

More than internet speed, I don't have a hard drive that big. I'd have to leave my subtitling program on for an hour to be able to load a video that size onto it even if I did buy an external hard drive to hold it. But at any rate, I'll slap a credit for you in for the hardsub encode; got a site/name you prefer to go by?

I just play Mikami. About five or six years ago before I was RPing DN I remember seeing a good number of Mellos, a bunch of Matts, but these days I know more Mikami players than I do (non-L) Whammy's kids. It's because I play the guy with the eyes on the Kira side that they don't seem as prevalent now, surely. They're good at hiding.

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Still, it's a big project, and a lot of us fans are grateful for it. ♥

Wow, good catch on Haley Belle! That's such an easily-missed detail. At first I was wondering why they bothered changing it from Raye, but with the other changes, I'm glad they did.

Ah yes, the coveted hard drive space. I currently have over 80 GB of DNtM stuff including test clips, it definitely adds up. I reformatted my computer a few months ago and moved everything to an external drive, which is partly why I have the space for this now. But a few months ago, forget it.

I go by Kylara, so please credit me as that. I was thinking of having you credit "Lawliet" for fun, but this is the name I've gone by for my other DN projects -- scanlating doujinshi and manga (just ch109). Not that anyone pays attention to the people behind the curtain.

I'll make an alternative Kakizawa-version .avi raw today to match the trimmed timing I'll be using on the .mkvs and to match the original resolution. It takes hours to convert, so it's going to be a one-a-day type thing. I leave the computer running while I go to work and hope everything's turned out okay by the time I get home. It'll be about 3.4 GB at 3000 kbps. I could have gone lower on the bitrate for a smaller filesize, but the test clip looked terrible at 2000 kbps, so I stuck at 3000. So let's see how that comes out! [ETA] It came out pretty well, if you'd like to see! [/ETA]

I hit 50k on my Nanowrimo project, but the story isn't actually finished and I haven't posted anything. I'm a big believer in revision, so that'll need to happen first. Some areas need to be completely re-written since I changed my mind on things later in the work, and I might change my mind more while finally finishing it. So it won't be for a few months if I decide to post it at all.

Wammy's House taught the boys so well that they're now hiding from the greatest detective in the world too, so I guess job well done on that. But then, I haven't been looking too hard lately. Ah well, the Lights and Misas I've found are totally wonderful. Who do you usually RP with as Mikami?

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Since I'm downloading the new raw to take a look-see, I'll make a sub-set with your credits in them too with a hard-sub credit for you in them so you can just plug and go; do you want a page link/reference or any such? For example, for Magnet I refer to AsiaFull, for the original smaller file Kakizawa raw I'll be referring to Tumblr. Do you have a site you want a referal to? Also, do you want me to put the new Kakizawa raw in the raw list above or non?

Edit/Update: Damn, your version is NICE! I don't know if it was the video or just that my computer couldn't handle the MP4 as well, but the one I was working with had a lot of freeze frames and jumps on expressions; the sound was fluid, the video was jerky. Resynching the timing, it looks like everything's more or less on point if the subs start at 0:00:00.45. But I'll have to adjust some text placement for the aspect ratio too, turn some layered subs into alpha subs so they don't have a weird overlap. I can up a version optimized to your settings if you like, either with the hardsub credits in place for you, and/or as an .ass everyone can put to your raw if you want to distribute your raw. /edit


I usually just throw Mikami at quick memes with strangers, so most of the time I'm playing him to non-canonmates. In terms of canonmate stuff, I've got three Lights I play with; one frequently on DW (andeatit so kindly providing input on the subs page), another whom I meme with once in a while and have quite a lot of DN talk with who so kindly did my Tumblr pimping for me (I can't be bothered to get a Tumblr; I'd never keep up with it since I can't stand Tumblr's format, it's god awful for discussion), then I've got one who I play with on AIM a lot who I don't think DWs.

I'm running an experimental murder mystery game a lot like Mafia where we've got an L, a Ryuk, a Light, a Misa coming in next round, and some non-DN characters; that's a lot of fun so far as a random-number-generator buddy has assigned someone to be the killer and the detective and such who get special abilities in-game, and even I don't know who each are. It's a great setting for DN people. Most of the players are non-DW people I invited in to test the setting and stuff and to try to break out of certain DWRP habits to see how they work out, things like first-come-first-serve on prompts rather than figuring out the timeline on having everyone respond to the same OP, having group-threads be more free-for-all than strictly ordered, etc.

I've had good experiences all around. I've always wanted to try a Mikami at a Misa so I'm looking forward to phase II of the murder game when she comes in. andeatit's linked me to some of their threads so I know we've got Misas about; we just don't seem to synch up on hitting the same memes. I don't see much of anyone other than Lights and Misas around. Kiras are more shameless and hide in plain sight like that.

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Feel free to use/hardsub/distribute/whatever these raws as you like. I'm glad the new version works so well. Here's the Urai version if you'd like, which is also trimmed to start on the first Death Note commercial, and it's encoded with the same stats as my Kakizawa raw. The resolution (1920 x 1080) is bigger than the previous Urai raw from myheart1027 (1280 x 720), because it matches the 23 GB .ts file resolution. The resolution's so big though, (almost no one needs 1080 really,) that I think I'll do some smaller ones too. Interestingly, even with the additional commercial at the end, it's still shorter than Kakizawa's version. Huh. At some point, I'm going to open two versions of VLC and play them simultaneously for a full comparison experience.

I would like the new .ass files if you're altering them to match, so I can still make those .mkvs. I was just going to re-time them all in batch and just hope for the best, but if you're re-doing them, I'll happily take those instead. And again, feel free to distribute/hardsub/whatever with the new raws, such as if you want to share them together with the subs.

As for crediting, hmm, I guess linking to my DW would make the most sense, since we're on DW here. Although I'm obviously never logged in.

That roleplay sounds like a lot of fun! I don't do games anymore though, I prefer sticking to individual players/characters. Less to worry about it, and we can do whatever we want. I haven't quite gotten back into roleplaying after November either, I keep meaning to but then I get distracted by things like this.

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Here we go; this should be the final cut of the Kakizawa version (just the DN musical ad in the front), timed to your video, with your credits in place for your hardsubbing. Sitting away from it for two weeks let me check again for typos and karaoke errors. God willing this should be the last necessary cut. Regular Cut and Otaku Cut set to go!

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Thanks! Sorry this took a while. I've done one hardsubbed version: 1920x1080 Kakizawa Otaku hardsubs v1.2 mkv here (1.35 GB). I'm going to try to get the other version done today.

I think the resolution is rather massive at 1920x1080, so I'm going to make a smaller resolution version at some point, probably 854x480. I have a soft-subbed MKV at that resolution (Kakizawa, both subtitle tracks v1.2, 987 MB), which I'll upload later as well.

Thanks again!

[ETA]
1920x1080 Kakizawa regular hardsubs v1.2 mkv here (1.35 GB)
854x480 Kakizawa softsubs (two tracks, both otaku and regular) v1.2 mkv here (987 MB)

[ETA2]
Forgot to mention: In the opening credits at about 0:00:33, it says "Ohga" instead of "Ohba." I caught that on my end before encoding, but I thought you'd like to know. I'll let you know if I spot anything else. (I also just realized that the softsubbed version references hardsubs in the opening credits. Ah, well...)