I think both you and Sinnesspiel are more alike Toshio than any other characters. I think Sinnesspiel once said or implied that they related to Toshio the most and I can sort of see that. I'd say that you two's contempt toward Sunako and her lot is especially what sealed it, and that you two seem to agree with Toshio a lot, and like him as well as accepting certain aspects of him. I think it's because you're able to understand him given your similar perspective. And then there are readers like me, who happens to be despaired by some of what he does, (he pisses me off quite a lot) because I don't understand him enough to accept what he does. I think it's the same way with Seishin: I accept what he does (some of it is annoying, but if I were in his situation I couldn't guarantee I wouldn't do what he did), but he pisses you two a lot. My brain probably works along a wavelength closer to Seishin's than to you two's or Toshio.
Oho, tough question. Regarding his definition of 'right' and 'wrong', I actually don't know what it'd be. Let's see... I think Seishin is pretty much someone who finds it difficult to see things that have nothing to do with his own situations. By situation, I also mean all his feelings, perspectives, and values surrounding it. Not saying that he's not able to understand at all, but his feelings, desires, values, perspectives, etc take priority. Even if he wants to also consider those other things, he won't, he cannot, if it's at the cost of his 'situations'. All the more so if it's an aspect he feels strongly about; he'll practically turn blind and deaf towards everything beyond it. At the very least, he'll feel repelled.
Which means he's someone who's not 'fair', in the sense of being truly impartial. I think he's very far from it in certain situations; he'll be very much self-absorbed. What I'm trying to say is, he might have a certain idea of 'right' or 'wrong' that's more 'fair', but in certain situations his own desires overrule them and even rewrite them. I think Sinnesspiel once said he bends his own rules to suit himself or something along the line, and I kinda agree. Which means that... yes, he gets dark down the road.
Which means he vivisected Kyouko because she was convenient. I think he implied it in a chapter somewhere. Oh my God, Toshio. Sure, she was only a Shiki when he experimented on her, that she was dead and all (according to his own definition of 'death'; I disagree), but in all actuality wasn't her (former) death caused by Toshio's own deliberate decision to not perform action to save her?? On top of that, he deliberately made it so that her condition got worse by feeding her off to the Shikis. He knew the outcome. He wanted that outcome. He wanted her dead. His actions led to her death and it was planned and deliberate, so it's the same as him killing Kyouko, to me. It's like him killing Kyouko two times.
Toshio managing to piss me off isn't only because I don't understand him. It's also because I love him a lot as a character and thus him doing it to Kyouko is like a huge punch to the gut, with me doubling over and all. Basically the disappointment you feel when someone you love do things you think as wrong. It's probably bad of me to say this but not even Sunako pisses me off that much because I literally don't care enough about her. The pissed-off feeling I have about her is by what she does to people, but I don't care about how it makes her look in my eyes. It's the feeling of wanting someone you love to be flawless, and it's the kind of feeling I figure Toshio would have some problems with.
Excuse me for talking as if these characters were real..
It got to the point where I thought that Ono had to have put those chapters there because she wanted readers like me to get riled up. Not to make us angry for its own sake, but because she wanted it to be thought-provoking, mind-opening and kinda symbolic kind of riled-up emotions. The kind of sudden blast of emotions that make us realize something we wouldn't be otherwise, just like what Seishin felt when he opened that God-damned door and found Toshio bloody and a hole in Kyouko's body. At the very least, she must've wanted to show how far Toshio's fallen.
For me, at the very least, it's mind-opening because I, as a reader who likes Toshio a lot, is forced to then face the aspects of him I really don't like. Also, not to expect a lot from him or anyone who doesn't wish it. That people you like will have faults, and you can either accept it or not, but don't burden them for it... etc etc. Basically a further realization of self. For me, everything that happens around me serves as a tool to realize more and more about myself.
If that spiritual angle you mentioned about his actual view alongside that feeling of responsibility, I sort of disagree with that view. It's probably bad of me to say this but I don't like it when people decide things for other people like that, much less something that takes their life. If a villager kills a Shiki because they're threatening their lives, then I can accept. Do things based on your own best interest, but don't do it because you think it's good for others, because it might not be. Of course, it'll be an even more complicated matter when it's regarding one's own children, because even I will feel some sort of responsibility to shape them... If it's me, I'll probably still think a Shiki is the same person they used to be, and I certainly think they're alive to some extent... but I'll probably run away because I don't want to be killed. I'll probably not have the guts to stake them too, but when push come to shove, anything is possible.
It's possible in the animanga (though didn't he revive after Toshio was done dissecting Kyouko or..?) but is certainly impossible in the novels. I still think that there has to be the meaning of Toshio dissecting Kyouko which means that it HAS to be Toshio dissecting Kyouko, even though it pisses me off.
Psycho-Pass is great! I recommend it. Well, though I think season 2 isn't as good as season 1. The movie is also good, but I love season 1 the most.
Haha, I don't have a journal. Like you, I also think it's a pain to write things out. Writing media is good to expand my mind further, but I feel like my hands aren't fast enough to keep up with my mind. An online journal or journal you keep in a computer might be a better idea for me. I'll probably employ my DW for it.
You have a cat?? Awwwwww, what breed is your cat??
I wonder too about what kind of person who'll be good for me. Someone whose principal views don't clash with mine but is also different enough to prompt me to be better, someone whom I can support as well as able to support me, someone who's willing to be partners with me. There are more specific details too. But is someone like that will be good for me? I'll probably not know until I try dating one...
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Oho, tough question. Regarding his definition of 'right' and 'wrong', I actually don't know what it'd be. Let's see... I think Seishin is pretty much someone who finds it difficult to see things that have nothing to do with his own situations. By situation, I also mean all his feelings, perspectives, and values surrounding it. Not saying that he's not able to understand at all, but his feelings, desires, values, perspectives, etc take priority. Even if he wants to also consider those other things, he won't, he cannot, if it's at the cost of his 'situations'. All the more so if it's an aspect he feels strongly about; he'll practically turn blind and deaf towards everything beyond it. At the very least, he'll feel repelled.
Which means he's someone who's not 'fair', in the sense of being truly impartial. I think he's very far from it in certain situations; he'll be very much self-absorbed. What I'm trying to say is, he might have a certain idea of 'right' or 'wrong' that's more 'fair', but in certain situations his own desires overrule them and even rewrite them. I think Sinnesspiel once said he bends his own rules to suit himself or something along the line, and I kinda agree. Which means that... yes, he gets dark down the road.
Which means he vivisected Kyouko because she was convenient. I think he implied it in a chapter somewhere. Oh my God, Toshio. Sure, she was only a Shiki when he experimented on her, that she was dead and all (according to his own definition of 'death'; I disagree), but in all actuality wasn't her (former) death caused by Toshio's own deliberate decision to not perform action to save her?? On top of that, he deliberately made it so that her condition got worse by feeding her off to the Shikis. He knew the outcome. He wanted that outcome. He wanted her dead. His actions led to her death and it was planned and deliberate, so it's the same as him killing Kyouko, to me. It's like him killing Kyouko two times.
Toshio managing to piss me off isn't only because I don't understand him. It's also because I love him a lot as a character and thus him doing it to Kyouko is like a huge punch to the gut, with me doubling over and all. Basically the disappointment you feel when someone you love do things you think as wrong. It's probably bad of me to say this but not even Sunako pisses me off that much because I literally don't care enough about her. The pissed-off feeling I have about her is by what she does to people, but I don't care about how it makes her look in my eyes. It's the feeling of wanting someone you love to be flawless, and it's the kind of feeling I figure Toshio would have some problems with.
Excuse me for talking as if these characters were real..
It got to the point where I thought that Ono had to have put those chapters there because she wanted readers like me to get riled up. Not to make us angry for its own sake, but because she wanted it to be thought-provoking, mind-opening and kinda symbolic kind of riled-up emotions. The kind of sudden blast of emotions that make us realize something we wouldn't be otherwise, just like what Seishin felt when he opened that God-damned door and found Toshio bloody and a hole in Kyouko's body. At the very least, she must've wanted to show how far Toshio's fallen.
For me, at the very least, it's mind-opening because I, as a reader who likes Toshio a lot, is forced to then face the aspects of him I really don't like. Also, not to expect a lot from him or anyone who doesn't wish it. That people you like will have faults, and you can either accept it or not, but don't burden them for it... etc etc. Basically a further realization of self. For me, everything that happens around me serves as a tool to realize more and more about myself.
If that spiritual angle you mentioned about his actual view alongside that feeling of responsibility, I sort of disagree with that view. It's probably bad of me to say this but I don't like it when people decide things for other people like that, much less something that takes their life. If a villager kills a Shiki because they're threatening their lives, then I can accept. Do things based on your own best interest, but don't do it because you think it's good for others, because it might not be. Of course, it'll be an even more complicated matter when it's regarding one's own children, because even I will feel some sort of responsibility to shape them... If it's me, I'll probably still think a Shiki is the same person they used to be, and I certainly think they're alive to some extent... but I'll probably run away because I don't want to be killed. I'll probably not have the guts to stake them too, but when push come to shove, anything is possible.
It's possible in the animanga (though didn't he revive after Toshio was done dissecting Kyouko or..?) but is certainly impossible in the novels. I still think that there has to be the meaning of Toshio dissecting Kyouko which means that it HAS to be Toshio dissecting Kyouko, even though it pisses me off.
Psycho-Pass is great! I recommend it. Well, though I think season 2 isn't as good as season 1. The movie is also good, but I love season 1 the most.
Haha, I don't have a journal. Like you, I also think it's a pain to write things out. Writing media is good to expand my mind further, but I feel like my hands aren't fast enough to keep up with my mind. An online journal or journal you keep in a computer might be a better idea for me. I'll probably employ my DW for it.
You have a cat?? Awwwwww, what breed is your cat??
I wonder too about what kind of person who'll be good for me. Someone whose principal views don't clash with mine but is also different enough to prompt me to be better, someone whom I can support as well as able to support me, someone who's willing to be partners with me. There are more specific details too. But is someone like that will be good for me? I'll probably not know until I try dating one...