Someone wrote in [personal profile] sinnesspiel 2015-01-25 12:15 am (UTC)

Re: 8D

8D -- If not for Toshio, the villagers wouldn't do something and would just sit in their home hoping for a miracle. I have a huge respect for him. Natsuno too. Both of them are so fearless even when they attract danger to themselves, one of them dies exactly because of that. Seishin is a lot like majority of the villagers here, yes. I think partially he has his morals, but I think his own feelings have a play in how he writes his morals or that his own feelings have a huge part in this. I can't say I don't understand. I think his hatred for the village hasn't even been added into mix yet here--- Natsuno is terribly afraid he might have killed Takatoshi and actually hopes he'd still be alive, because he doesn't want to live with a burden of sin on his shoulders. Even Toshio at one point hesitates and afraid. Seishin may also be afraid of doing sin, which is partially why he hesitates. But if someone tells him what to do and that that someone is also doing the dirty work, like Toshio, he may think he doesn't have to bear the sin alone, so he tends to just wait for orders. Killing is wrong, yes, but I don't really care if someone else does it because it'll be their own business, at least I'm not the one doing that!-- probably. This is pretty cowardly but a very human reaction.

He perhaps also thinks that what they do is what naturally comes to them, like an instinct or so (oh ho what a big lie that is), and that they cannot be held accountable for what they do because they're not human and not included within the human system? So they shouldn't be judged by humans. Add that with his growing hatred for the village to make things more confusing.

Sinnesspiel once said that perhaps the reason behind his hesitancy was so he didn't have to make difficult choices. I think I quite agree with this. Seishin is a passive person and if not for his surroundings pushing him, chance is he wouldn't achieve most of things he has throughout the novels. Like majority of the villagers, he perhaps prefers stability and safe where he doesn't have to make difficult choices and face them and be held accountable for them. Again, I cannot say I don't understand.

Seishin usually has really strong morals. One time he notices Toshio doing something he thinks very, very unacceptable, he immediately goes to him and gives him a piece of his mind. That's the chapter where he's shown to be truly angry. I think that'll be how Seishin is if he fully operates on his morals.

I like reading where his feelings and logic mesh and cause him extreme confusion. Seishin is all feelings/morals but Toshio is all logic and practicality and Seishin understands what Toshio's been saying and acknowledges his being right. I think that part is very interesting and amusing. Even I'd get confused a lot if I really let it get to me, like for example: what Toshio does to Kyouko is something I'd really, really hate. I'm just not feeling as much because this is a fictional work and I'm a detached reader. But I also understand where he comes from and that, perhaps, it really needs to be done for them to move forward. So I really get Seishin there.

I think part of reasons why Seishin hides his real self from the village, since the beginning is so that he could be accepted. This is sad really. Even while he's using his persona people still cannot accept him fully, for various reasons (one of them being his being a Muroi). His wanting stability and safety likely also plays into part, because if he only follows his real heart difficult choices will be all he faces. A good thing Toshio and Sunako are both people who like to push him beyond his comfortable zone, because he really needs that.

No, Sunako is fully the one to be held accountable here with her lot. Perhaps people would think 'they aren't human so humans cannot judge them' or say 'let God judge them', but really, you reap what you sow. The villagers are only defending themselves and have all the rights to be angry. This will not come to this if the Kirishikis don't try to do bad things to the villagers in the first place. They're not human but they've been intruding humans' territory, so humans have a right to judge them using human means. Trying to understand them is all good, in my opinion, but mere understanding will not solve problems and in this case one really needs to harden their heart were they in this situation to not let sympathy gets to them too much. Sunako's reaction as you mentioned is a very human one which I understand, however. For what she said to Seishin in the burning church, I think it could be a genuine one because it's quite a life and death situation where people usually are they most genuine state. However, I like that Seishin follows his heart there and doesn't do what Sunako wants him to do, as opposed to his passive past self. Seishin = 100, Sunako = 0.

What was in my mind when I said Seishin would be worse than Tatsumi is, I figure, Seishin will have his own agenda/goal as opposed to Tatsumi fully following her and bending to her will. Though perhaps the similarity is, they are both observing her and see what would come of her. He'll be playing an even-more detached guardian who doesn't belong to anyone in every sense of word, in my opinion. I think he'll still have some of his morals and help her when she really needs it, though. But it'd not take long before they actually clash. I also want to see Sunako actually, actively trying to fight him. Perhaps it's my wishful thinking; to see them fight one another in all terrible ways. But I think Seishin would win here.

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